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		<title>By: Barb Glaspey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb Glaspey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sorry, but I do believe in &quot;giving&quot; but not the tithing.  We are not under a tithing law.  We have been given grace to &quot;give&quot; as a cheerful giver.  A true Christian gives much more by cheerful giving.....under grace....than they ever will in the tithing law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry, but I do believe in &#8220;giving&#8221; but not the tithing.  We are not under a tithing law.  We have been given grace to &#8220;give&#8221; as a cheerful giver.  A true Christian gives much more by cheerful giving&#8230;..under grace&#8230;.than they ever will in the tithing law.</p>
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		<title>By: freewillgiver</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Tanji Here is the AofG real world doctrine on tithes

And Thank you Gwaine for giving me this real world example of money tithing in practice. 
I respect thier missionaries but they promote many false doctrines. I grew up Assemblies of god and I almost went to a Penticostal Bible colledge. Did you go to Bible colledge which one anyways. 

The Assemblies of God has always been a proponent of tithing (or giving one-tenth of one’s personal income to support the work of God). We believe tithing is a recognition that everything we have comes from God. 

it is a very important biblical model, one which should set the minimal standard for Christian giving for people in all income ranges.

&quot;The poor are not exempt freewillgiver commentary&quot;

Though some people believe tithing was an Old Testament practice not intended for New Testament Christians, the Assemblies of God believes and teaches that tithing is still God’s design for supporting the ministry and reaching the world with the gospel. Our bylaws state, &quot;We recognize the duty of tithing and urge all our people to pay tithes to God&quot; (Article IX, Section 7a.) 

It is true there is no direct commandment in the New Testament saying, &quot;You must tithe to God one-tenth of your income&quot;; 

&quot;Of course there is no Jesus money tithe. freewillgiver commentary&quot;

but there is also no statement declaring the Old Testament plan as no longer valid. 

Yea in the O.T. everyone including the poor paid 10% money tithes to Levites who were richer than the average Israelite Like AOG ministers in the U.S. 

Some oppose tithing today quoting Matthew 23:23 as proof text. In doing so they actually twist Jesus’ words to teach just the opposite of what Jesus clearly said. &quot;Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices... But you have neglected the more important matters of the law–justice, mercy and faithfulness.&quot; Stopping at that point in the verse might allow some misinterpretation. But Jesus continued, &quot;You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.&quot; From here we see that Jesus regarded the Old Testament practice of tithing as continuing into the new covenant under which we now live.

&quot;Hmmm new tesement Christianity began after the death of Jesus so when Jesus spoke about paying tithes was he not speaking to jews under the Old testement. Naa I trust the AofG freewillgiver sarcastic commentary&quot;

The practice of tithing predates the giving of the Old Testament law. Abraham tithed in response to God’s blessing and faithfulness (Genesis 14:18-20) and was no doubt blessed because of his faithful tithing. Under the law, proceeds from the tithes were directed primarily for the support of the Levites and priests who provided religious leadership

&quot;The levites were on average needy too having less land than average making them poor but please Aof G let your ministers be more rich than the congregation Freewillgiver commentary&quot; 

(Numbers 18:21-29) and for the relief of the needy (Deuteronomy 14:22-29). 

Today’s church still relies on the support of tithers. 

&quot;What no friends money tithe leaders expect tithers to support the Aof G freewillgiver commentary&quot; 

&quot;Next is my favorite part&quot;

CONCERNS:

Christians can miss out on God’s abundant blessing by looking on the tithe as the entire requirement for giving. The tithe is only one aspect of support for the church and its ministry of spreading the gospel. 

&quot;Yes the Aof G expects more money freewillgiver commentry&quot;

The Bible also mentions voluntary offerings given by God’s people over and above the required tithe. Of course, the attitude with which both tithes and offerings are given is very important. God loves a cheerful giver (2 Corinthians 9:7). 

&quot;Notice the ommssion of let every man set in his heart what they should give? I wonder why? freewillgiver commentary


 The giving of either tithes or offerings with a grudging spirit loses much of the blessing that can come as we faithfully give out of love rather than obligation.

&quot;This is the best part folks freewillgiver commentary&quot;

The Assemblies of God is also concerned about people who withhold tithes when they do not like decisions and directions espoused by spiritual leaders. 

&quot;You must give the AofG money anyways even if you disagree with the doctrines because they expect the money. freewillgiver commentary&quot;

Christians should fellowship with a local body of believers and bring their whole tithes into that storehouse (Malachi 3:10). &quot;The church becomes a place very much like a temple. Are not our bodys the temples and the church people? freewillgiver commentary&quot;


Though some of the Israelites may not have liked decisions made by Moses and his successors, they were given no alternatives. While we may designate some of our offerings (beyond the tithes)

&quot;now AofG tells yall exactly how and where to give freewillgiver commentary&quot; 

to ministries outside the local church, the tithes rightfully belong in the church with which the Christian identifies. And if one is not identifying with a local body of believers, he or she disregards God’s instruction that we not forsake assembling together with believers (Hebrews 10:25).

Some Christians do not tithe, claiming they cannot afford to give up 10 percent of their income.

&quot; the poor are not exempt becase this is the new testement as explained by the AofG freewillgiver commentary&quot; 

Simple arithmetic may suggest that 90 percent will not go as far as 100 percent in satisfying essential family needs. But God has built a multiplication factor into our giving of tithes and offerings. Malachi recorded God’s words, &quot;Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse... Test me in this... and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it&quot; (Malachi 3:10).

&quot; this is the begining of Health and wealth prosperity thiniking just like most U.S. televangelist freewillgiver commentary.&quot; 


Though we do not give to God in order to get more back, as some suggest we should, God’s promises are still true–if our giving is according to His instruction.

Who finds this Doctrine statment fair and ballanced. Who agrees that this statment is good doctrine. This is real world money tithe abuse by the one of the largest denominations in the world.

Jimmy Swaggart was my childhood hero but I never liked Jim Baker and Benny Hinn just seems phony but here is the root of much of their bad doctrines conserning money.

Who agrees with this less suffering for Christian leaders but much sacrifice for all including the poor tithe doctrine? Should not Christian leaders Be the first to sacrifice?

Christ in us]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Tanji Here is the AofG real world doctrine on tithes</p>
<p>And Thank you Gwaine for giving me this real world example of money tithing in practice.<br />
I respect thier missionaries but they promote many false doctrines. I grew up Assemblies of god and I almost went to a Penticostal Bible colledge. Did you go to Bible colledge which one anyways. </p>
<p>The Assemblies of God has always been a proponent of tithing (or giving one-tenth of one’s personal income to support the work of God). We believe tithing is a recognition that everything we have comes from God. </p>
<p>it is a very important biblical model, one which should set the minimal standard for Christian giving for people in all income ranges.</p>
<p>&#8220;The poor are not exempt freewillgiver commentary&#8221;</p>
<p>Though some people believe tithing was an Old Testament practice not intended for New Testament Christians, the Assemblies of God believes and teaches that tithing is still God’s design for supporting the ministry and reaching the world with the gospel. Our bylaws state, &#8220;We recognize the duty of tithing and urge all our people to pay tithes to God&#8221; (Article IX, Section 7a.) </p>
<p>It is true there is no direct commandment in the New Testament saying, &#8220;You must tithe to God one-tenth of your income&#8221;; </p>
<p>&#8220;Of course there is no Jesus money tithe. freewillgiver commentary&#8221;</p>
<p>but there is also no statement declaring the Old Testament plan as no longer valid. </p>
<p>Yea in the O.T. everyone including the poor paid 10% money tithes to Levites who were richer than the average Israelite Like AOG ministers in the U.S. </p>
<p>Some oppose tithing today quoting Matthew 23:23 as proof text. In doing so they actually twist Jesus’ words to teach just the opposite of what Jesus clearly said. &#8220;Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices&#8230; But you have neglected the more important matters of the law–justice, mercy and faithfulness.&#8221; Stopping at that point in the verse might allow some misinterpretation. But Jesus continued, &#8220;You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.&#8221; From here we see that Jesus regarded the Old Testament practice of tithing as continuing into the new covenant under which we now live.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hmmm new tesement Christianity began after the death of Jesus so when Jesus spoke about paying tithes was he not speaking to jews under the Old testement. Naa I trust the AofG freewillgiver sarcastic commentary&#8221;</p>
<p>The practice of tithing predates the giving of the Old Testament law. Abraham tithed in response to God’s blessing and faithfulness (Genesis 14:18-20) and was no doubt blessed because of his faithful tithing. Under the law, proceeds from the tithes were directed primarily for the support of the Levites and priests who provided religious leadership</p>
<p>&#8220;The levites were on average needy too having less land than average making them poor but please Aof G let your ministers be more rich than the congregation Freewillgiver commentary&#8221; </p>
<p>(Numbers 18:21-29) and for the relief of the needy (Deuteronomy 14:22-29). </p>
<p>Today’s church still relies on the support of tithers. </p>
<p>&#8220;What no friends money tithe leaders expect tithers to support the Aof G freewillgiver commentary&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Next is my favorite part&#8221;</p>
<p>CONCERNS:</p>
<p>Christians can miss out on God’s abundant blessing by looking on the tithe as the entire requirement for giving. The tithe is only one aspect of support for the church and its ministry of spreading the gospel. </p>
<p>&#8220;Yes the Aof G expects more money freewillgiver commentry&#8221;</p>
<p>The Bible also mentions voluntary offerings given by God’s people over and above the required tithe. Of course, the attitude with which both tithes and offerings are given is very important. God loves a cheerful giver (2 Corinthians 9:7). </p>
<p>&#8220;Notice the ommssion of let every man set in his heart what they should give? I wonder why? freewillgiver commentary</p>
<p> The giving of either tithes or offerings with a grudging spirit loses much of the blessing that can come as we faithfully give out of love rather than obligation.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is the best part folks freewillgiver commentary&#8221;</p>
<p>The Assemblies of God is also concerned about people who withhold tithes when they do not like decisions and directions espoused by spiritual leaders. </p>
<p>&#8220;You must give the AofG money anyways even if you disagree with the doctrines because they expect the money. freewillgiver commentary&#8221;</p>
<p>Christians should fellowship with a local body of believers and bring their whole tithes into that storehouse (Malachi 3:10). &#8220;The church becomes a place very much like a temple. Are not our bodys the temples and the church people? freewillgiver commentary&#8221;</p>
<p>Though some of the Israelites may not have liked decisions made by Moses and his successors, they were given no alternatives. While we may designate some of our offerings (beyond the tithes)</p>
<p>&#8220;now AofG tells yall exactly how and where to give freewillgiver commentary&#8221; </p>
<p>to ministries outside the local church, the tithes rightfully belong in the church with which the Christian identifies. And if one is not identifying with a local body of believers, he or she disregards God’s instruction that we not forsake assembling together with believers (Hebrews 10:25).</p>
<p>Some Christians do not tithe, claiming they cannot afford to give up 10 percent of their income.</p>
<p>&#8221; the poor are not exempt becase this is the new testement as explained by the AofG freewillgiver commentary&#8221; </p>
<p>Simple arithmetic may suggest that 90 percent will not go as far as 100 percent in satisfying essential family needs. But God has built a multiplication factor into our giving of tithes and offerings. Malachi recorded God’s words, &#8220;Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse&#8230; Test me in this&#8230; and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it&#8221; (Malachi 3:10).</p>
<p>&#8221; this is the begining of Health and wealth prosperity thiniking just like most U.S. televangelist freewillgiver commentary.&#8221; </p>
<p>Though we do not give to God in order to get more back, as some suggest we should, God’s promises are still true–if our giving is according to His instruction.</p>
<p>Who finds this Doctrine statment fair and ballanced. Who agrees that this statment is good doctrine. This is real world money tithe abuse by the one of the largest denominations in the world.</p>
<p>Jimmy Swaggart was my childhood hero but I never liked Jim Baker and Benny Hinn just seems phony but here is the root of much of their bad doctrines conserning money.</p>
<p>Who agrees with this less suffering for Christian leaders but much sacrifice for all including the poor tithe doctrine? Should not Christian leaders Be the first to sacrifice?</p>
<p>Christ in us</p>
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