My Comments on Other Blogs

I just went through and wrote on a bunch of other blogs, so i figured i’d write a blog on some of the good tidbits that i had come up with when i wrote comments.

-there’s something that just bugs me from aiming for 10%. I mean really? it’s like this. God wants me to be totally surrendered to him like a complete sacrifice. What if i said, Well, i’ll give you 10% of me God. I understand what you are trying to say, and i know you agree that ultimately it’s 100% that belongs to God. But what i wanna know is why 10%? Is it 10% because that’s what Abraham and Israel did? Or is it 10% because that’s what the Holy Spirit is asking us to give?

-If God gave us his Spirit and its gifts to run the church, feed the church, teach the church, grow the church, then Spirit-led giving is good enough to support the church.

-Why should the spirit led church be supported by anything other than Spirit led giving? isn’t that why God gave us the spiritual gifts for? or was it just pseudo power that just gave us more boldness but actually did nothing for us?

Jared Bartholomew is the author of www.tithing.com. There are over 300 articles written on research and reviews about tithing information.

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4 comments on “My Comments on Other Blogs
  1. Scott Gould says:

    These comments that you leave all sound great – but at the end of the day, what does the Bible say?

    1. Yes of course we give God all. And, if like the Acts 2 church and many millions since, God required you or me to give every material thing, then we would. The reality is that most people don’t and this is an easy excuse to hide behind.
    What does the Bible say? Well in finances, a 10th of all. And if God asks for more, or if you want to, then more!
    Let us realise that many Christians would give 0% if the Bible didn’t call for an exact amount. And before you go on about the ‘evil of numbers’ – remember, God counts things – the hairs on your head, the number of souls in Acts – in fact Jesus will return “when the number of gentiles is fulfilled”.

    2. Yes spirit led giving is paramount, and what you say sounds very nice – but WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? The Spirit confirms the Word – Jesus said that the Spirit testifies not of himself, but of Christ. What is Christ? The Word!

    3. Again, this last comment sounds good but has no scriptural backing. The Apostle Paul in 2 Cor 9 was very forward about each one giving and putting aside. If they were to be spirit-led, why would he remind them? And again, Spirit-led giving is Word-led giving.

  2. Your comment that Many Christians would give 0% if the bible didn’t call for an exact amount is definitely assuming. Does scripture tell you what ministries you should serve or what ministries to attend? It doesn’t. Simply put, the Spirit of God prompts you, and you obey. He will prompt you to pray for this person, and serve that person.

    We obey these Spiritual commands without any bible verse that fore-ordains our actions. The same goes for Spirit-led giving. The church overall is already Spirit-led. Now whether or not people are acting upon it, is based on whether they are listening or not.

    If you think that a law of tithing helps people listen and obey better, then you must have Israel’s behavioral pattern clouded in your mind. They didn’t listen even though the law was written on stone right before their eyes. Besides that, last time i checked statistics, only 8% of the church population were obeying and listening to the tithe law anyways.

    Because the Spirit of God has the sole power to ordain ministries, it also has the responsibility to anoint others with gifts and abilities to sustain it. (Hence: the purpose of the gift of giving). How can the old law be responsible to control the gifts and abilities to sustain something that it had no power to ordain?

    Other than that, I don’t understand your question about why Paul would remind the Corinthians to set aside a gift to give. I don’t know if this will answer it, but i never said it was bad to plan your giving or even to set a personal standard.

    I agree with your application of the Spirit and the Word that you stated in your comment, but all you’ve stated were general principles.

  3. Robert says:

    Scott,
    Your comment:

    Let us realise that many Christians would give 0% if the Bible didn’t call for an exact amount.

    is false. Christians give based on their heart’s desire no matter if the amount is spelled out or not!

    For example: you give your 10%…did you know that you’re supposed to tithe on your “increase”?

    If you don’t do the following then you aren’t tithing your full amount based on the Old Testament language:

    ** Do you tithe all interest of any form you accrue from savings accounts or capital gains?

    ** Do you tithe the yearly increase of the value of your home, jewelry or other assets? Or if you sell your home or any other property do you tithe any increase in value? (A home bought in 1970 for $20,000 may sell today for $80,000, leaving the “faithful tither” $7200 to tithe! [12% of $60,000])

    ** Do you tithe the value of any gifts you receive (Christmas?)

    ** Do you tithe the benefits you receive from your job (value of health insurance, profit sharing, retirement, etc.)

    ** Do you tithe any unexpected or extra income no matter how small from any source?

    If you can’t say yes to these questions, then you are not a faithful tither according to the Old Testament.

    So, how will you respond now that you know this?

  4. Gwaine says:

    Robert,

    If you can’t say yes to these questions, then you are not a faithful tither according to the Old Testament.

    You’re assuming the same punctilious attitude to tithing that the Pharisee espoused in Luke 18:12 – “I give tithes of ALL that I possess”. If you want to argue somebody’s tithes “according to the Old Testament”, please do so without interpolating your own standards and pretending your own ideas into the OT so you can hold someone else accountable to it.

    That said, I would agree with Gould’s summations. When people use this argument of “Spirit-led” ONLY for the NT, they are largely ignoring the fact that the Spirit was also involved in leading the lives of those under the OT. It is because some Christians have not seen this fact, that is why they continue to repeat the mistake of conveniently using such quips as “Spirit-led” for the NT while ignoring His leading in the OT.

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