- 10% was not the minimum amount for Israel. They gave less than 10% at times. (Hebrews 7:4; Numbers 31:28-30)
- The New Testament does not command, address, or mention tithing to the Gentiles who are unfamiliar with Jewish practices.
- Jesus’ own ministry operated from freewill offerings. He also commanded the disciples to receive freely. (Luke 8:1-3, Matthew 10:8-10)
- The children of God under his family are not taxed. They are free to give (Matthew 17:25; Galatians 4:5)
- Tithing was not a requirement prior to the Mosaic law considering Jacob freely offered God 10%. (Genesis 28:20)
- None of the Israelites tithed while outside of the promised land. (Deuteronomy 12:5)
- Abraham’s tithe was under the Old Covenant, which was established before Moses and was also fulfilled (Genesis 3; Hebrews 8:13)
- Giving would be the only spiritual gift with a minimum requirement and not led by the Spirit.
- There are no commands to modify tithing with how we practice it today, so people have to make up correlations to get it to fit into the church.
- Israelites who did not grow food or raise animals did not tithe. (Leviticus 27:30)
- Giving is not by compulsion. (2 Corinthians 9:6-9)
- The Levitical priests were required to serve 25 years, and just like tithing, the New Testament doesn’t recall this requirement either
- Unless giving 10% is the spiritual nature of God’s holiness, then it falls under the same classification of other interim tokens in the Old Covenant that Christ fulfilled
Jared Brian says
Marty,
Go buy a slave and beat the junk out of him. Exodus 21:20-21
Marty says
Sorry, Stewart not applicable. There is no command to beat thy servant/slave.
Jared Brian says
Sorry Marty there’s no command to stop me from buying a slave and beating them within an inch of their life.
obedient says
Marty — stand your ground. You are 100% correct.
“steward” and “tithe”, type in an address and I will send you some tithe envelopes. Oh, and “tithe”, may God have mercy on your soul.
Jared Brian says
It’s a relief to know you finally granted God permission to grant his mercy on me.
Marty says
True Tithe, but “Caesar” has commanded otherwise, whereas God has not commanded either way. OT laws allowed it, but God did not commanded it.
Just to clarify something I read earlier, we tithe on our increase not on our gross, which to me means take home pay rather than gross income.
obedient says
“Tithe”, just to be clear — my comment is a prayer for you. I nor any man can grant God’s mercy — on He can do that. I can just simply pray for you.
I detect some really bad experiences in your writing. I’m sorry if that is the case.
Jared Brian says
obedient,
I wouldn’t consider them bad. God is in control.
obedient says
You are absolutely right. Best regards.
anonymous says
Great Marty believes in keeping Old Testament Covenant Jewish laws but I bet he is not even Jewish and does not know he should also keep the other six hundred plus laws while he is at it or be guilty before God!
Duh stupid should read
Hebrews 8:6 on our better covenant since Jesus fulfilled the law in our place!
Al Sydney says
Hi,this argument about tithing is so intresting everyone is entitled to their own opinion.The fact remains that many are not sure whether tithing was under the law of Moses or we should still keep it today.I am a gentile and I only became aware of tithing when I read a christian magazine 25yrs ago.I have been tithing before I stepped in to a christian church for a few years.I simply accepted the teaching on tithing by these pastors as true because the scriptures they quoted and to me they were teaching the truth.Ministers that are still teaching tithing today and back then all looked so blessed.I was blessed by Pastor Bayless Conley when he said on one of his sermons not to take what he says as the truth but to go and check out what he teaches from the bible.I am amazed that Apostle Paul was against people who tried to keep the law of Moses or any Jewish tradition including sabbath days,circumcision or any law according to Moses in the book of Galatians 5:1-6. Paul went on to say that if anyone tries to keep the law or any jewish tradition have cut themselves off from Christ.We all know if you break one law according to the law of Moses you have broken the whole law.If anyone tells you that tithing is not in the law of Moses is lying.Jesus said in Mathew 23:23 that tithing is of the law.Please go and read these scriptures with prayer.WE CANT MIX THE OLD COVENANT WITH THE NEW.The old covenant was for Jews only without exception,I am a gentile without the new covenant I am dead in my sins.Paul did not get this revelation from the bible he received it from the Holy Spirit and God put in the Bible for you and me.I dont want to argue with anyone please I just want to point you to the Word of God not to a pastor or an evangelist or a teacher.We live by faith in Christ through his grace only not by works.We access all the promises in the bible through faith in Christ absolutely free.Jesus paid for it all including our finances.Is salvation free?what about healing?our peace and rest?Gods favour?our finances?.JESUS CAME TO GIVE US LIFE.Not to sell us life or a ticket to enter Heaven its FREE.Please Honour God with your finances but if you give God tenth dont brag about it cause some can live well on ten percent only.
Bernice says
Just wondering if Marty keeps the Sabbath without fail by ceasing from all work or play from Friday evening (sun-down) till Saturday evening? Does Marty eat pork, were you circumcised on the eight day? If you have sons were they? Do you observe ritual washings and wash his hands for 2o mins or more up to the elbow before eating? Does your wife cover her head in Church?
Still stone people to death for adultery or children when grossly disobedience to parents?
Where is your lamb without defect for a blood sacrifice for breaking anyone of the minor Jewish Old Covenant Laws? If you are so pro- Old Testament law keeping don’t stop at just the ten commandments are the tithing law. The Bible said in Galatians keep them all are be guilty of breaking them all. A little common sense goes a long way! Neither Marty or I or anyone can keep all of the Jewish laws neither were Gentiles either commanded to do so. Jesus said the whole law could be summed up in two commandments. Love the Lord your God with all your heart mind and soul and your neighbor (others) as yourself. This fulfills the law (the Prophets preached about) of the Prophets. With that said, if you love God you will give your money to spread the gospel and give to the poor without a verbal beat down on Sunday at offering time. Neither will you brag about doing so or feel superior and special which is pride and elitist thinking.
Amee says
When in doubt examine what the word has to say to the Gentiles and regarding the New Covenant after Jesus died on the Cross.
Hebrews 7:23 “Jesus is the guarantee of a better Covenant”.
Hebrews 8:6 “But now, Jesus has been given priestly work which is superior to theirs (Old Covenant) which he arranged between God and his people is a better one, because it is based on promises of better things.”
Hebrews 8:7 “If there had been nothing wrong with the first Covenant there would have been no need for a second one”.
Hebrews 8:13 “By speaking of a New Covenant God has made the first one old: and anything old and that becomes old and worn out will soon disappear.”
Acts 15:19 “We should not trouble the Gentiles who are turning to God”.
Acts 15:10 ” So then why do you now want to put God to the test by laying a LOAD on the backs of the believers which neither our ancestors nor we ourselves were able to bare?”
Amee says
Hebrews 8:23 “Jesus is the guarantee of a better Covenant”
1 Thessalonians 2:9 “Certainly remember brethren how we worked and toiled day and night so that we would not be any trouble to you as we preached the gospel”
(Paul’s instruction addressed to the Gentiles)
2nd Corinthian 9:7 ” Each one should give as he has decided in his won heart, not with remorse or out of duty, for God loves a cheerful giver (does not say tither)!
Amee says
Hebrews 7:22 “Jesus is a guarantee of a better Covenant”. Three is a charm! Just had to put on my reading glasses to see the fine print in my word!
No mere mortal is infallible not me your Pastor, Pope or Bishop only God and his words are perfect. If you find it in the word don’t dismiss it and follow your favorite TV preacher this is how cults & false doctrines have started. I did not say Roman Catholicism or the Protestant Prosperity Gospel but if the shoe fits you know what to do.
none says
Has anyone tuned into the TBN Praise-a-thon this week? There is so much scripture twisting and erroneous teaching that it made me want to throw up. Don’t get me wrong, I believe TBN has won millions of people to the Lord with many great programs. Sunday mornings they feature the late Adrian Rogers, the late D. James Kennedy, Charles Stanly, “Way of the Masters with Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron”, “Drive Thru History”
Billy Graham mostly his earlier day Crusades, Pastor David Jeremiah, Touching Lives with Pastor James Merritt is by far the best. There are too many others to name but you have to shift through some tares among wheat but Jesus said we would have to do so.
Jared Brian says
Such anger is in my heart when i watch those vipers on TV. There isn’t a strong enough word to call them for what they are.
I can’t understand why some of the names you mentioned actually got into bed with TBN.
I would NEVER receive an endorsement from them. I believe many of them are the pharisees of our time. So from what i know, it didn’t seem like many of them were in line to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Al Sydney says
Please remember Jesus mentioned in the book of Mathew 13:22 about the deceittfulness of riches or the lure of wealth (NLT)that it can choke the Word.Even if these people who teach tithing read what Apostle Paul warned us in Galatians and Hebrews, FEAR OF NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY will make them ignore the Word of God and continiue to manipulate the scriptures for their own profit.2 Corinthians 8:12-14 (NLT) clearly says, give what you can afford.Be wise in your giving and pay all your bills first because in doing so we bring HONOUR to GOD in the eyes of unbelivers christians are trustworthy and faithfull.Our lives will testify of Jesus not just words. Thats why the bible warns about those who want to teach the Word of God that they will be strictly judged.Pray for those who are involve in this practise because in Galatians 1:8-9(NLT) Paul has already dealt with them.
Sick of them says
I challenge Marty, Obedient and any of these Pro-tithers to give us Scriptures where Gentiles were commanded to tithe as a mandate to be in right-standing with God!!! They won’t because they can’t! They have nothing but the Jewish Old Covenant to twist in support of their claims.
There have been countless Scriptures that tithing was not given to the Gentiles.
Us Rational people are willing to review the proof if they have it. But they can’t and they won’t because it is not in the New Testament that Gentiles have to pay God the tithe from the gross to be blessed, healed etc They have not read the entire New Testament but are parrots to what the Preacher told them!
Also for Catholics please prove there is a Purgatory and prayers to Mary the earthly Mother of Jesus is not idolatry.
This tithing doctrine is an idol in these people’s heart that has replaced the free gift of Gods grace and blessings with their own works. It is all about them getting glory for their own efforts and not the works of Christ. What Blind guides they are! Give but why such an emphasis on their own efforts and not the Cross?
For the Tithe or Curse Crowd says
Repeat after me for your deprogramming!
Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the Law by being made a curse for us!
Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the Law by being made a curse for us!
Jesus is our Better Covenant
Jesus is our Better Covenant
Jesus is our Better Covenant