Why is God’s request a ‘need’
But my request, a ‘want’ indeed?
Why is God’s house that fancy
But my house not much to see?
Why should I give to God’s missionary
When my own city is cold and hungry?
Why can I find God by only going to church
As if God wanted me, but didn’t search?
Why does a man of God drive a brand new car
As I drive my clunker that does not get very far?
Why should your music program be so hot
But my stereo system be so not?
Why is God so selfish and unkind
by not healing the sick and the blind?
Why is giving a tithe required
When my family is financially tired?
Why does God need a coffee shop
And I have to wait at the bus stop?
Why is a mission trip a huge cost
But our own neighbors are still lost?
Why must God have padded pews
And the poor walk with holey shoes?
Why does God have a tall steeple
But seems to reject the lowly people?
Why does God need pipe organs
But only muse about the orphans?
Why does God pass the offering plate
And also pass the widow at the gate?
Why am I so selfish
when it’s not my life that is so lavish?
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O.K here is a freewillgiver wrapping responce to your poem.
Because not giving to the pastors in the church is a sin, the poor and the giving congregations lose, while the pastors collecting the tithe win.
Because leaglism and denominationalism is so strong, and the 20 thousand dollar organs in the church play along.
Because the church is considerd a building and the pastors are considerd preists. Congregations give to the rich and neglect the least.
Because christian children are educated in secular schools, and pastor have money to take vacations and pastor make the rules.
which say an offering is not holy untill it hits my collection plate.
Because folks don’t consider looking up tithes in the Bible, and they think the building is the only place for revival.
Offerings are above and beyond my moneytithe freewill giving I hate.
Can a man rob God? yall all know the verse if you don’t moneytithe my offering plate you are under a curse.
Tithe church comes first other ministries are secondary, including missions, your debts, and giving to the needy which is unnessisary.
Give to the church and we will meet the needs Tithe church is the profits that you must heed
Power to the pastors deakons staff and boards Power to the no profit organizational accord power you recieve when to the church you give no need to benifit the place that you live.
Money tithes are good, money tithes make pastors strong, money tithes seem right while other giving is wrong. Money tithes create sheep Money tithes send folks astray Money tithes send Offering and Freewill giving away.
god is selfish says
isn’t god just selfish? like he’s all up in your face like BELIVE ME I AM GOD DONT YOU DARE BELIEVE IN ANYTHING ELSE OR I KILL U AND I MAKE U SUFFERRRRRR
Ok I messed up one line
Because Christian children are educated in secular schools, While paststors have vacation money and pastors make the rules,
which state an offering is not holy until it hits my collection plate
Offerings are above and beyond my moneytithe
Freewill giving I hate.
Read the Bible in its original context. If you need help, ask (genuinely). Sarcastically developing your own theories and perspectives, that may or may not be Biblical, are futile. There is a reason that tithes, offerings, first fruits, and alms have been in existence for over 4000 years. God has a plan for all of it.
Remember, His ways are not our ways and His thoughts are not our thoughts. You have to get beyond yourself if you are truly going to understand something of this nature.
Thankyou for replying. There is no sarcasim in my post. I think that Christian forced giving of 10% of their income to the local church is wrong. If pastors want 10% of their congregations money then they must ask and that is ok with me. Demanding the money by saying that money is a tithe required for Christians is wrong. Jesus and the new testement do not require tithing of money. The bible never required a money tithe. I just read all 40 scriptures in the Bible on tithing last month. You should do the same. After you have read pleas respond to my post I enjoy discussing the scriptutures.
Matthew 5:17-19: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
This scripture states that all the tithe, whether it be seed of the land, fruit of the tree, or one tenth of all that you earn, is holy unto the Lord. Deuteronomy 14:22-29 states that one-tenth of all that comes into your possession, belongs to God.
Why should we look for ways to excuse us from what we know we should be doing? Let’s be about establishing and not doing away with His Words. The tithe was, and is and shall ever be holy unto the Lord.
Every Christian should diligently pray and seek God’s wisdom in the matter of participating in tithing and/or how much to give (James 1:5). Above all, all tithes and offerings should be given with pure motives and an attitude of worship to God and service to the body of Christ. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver
Are you commenting about biblical tithes in the bible or man made tithes made by greedy con artist to steal money from christians. Please read your bible properly before you support this lie deceiving so many good christians all over the world .
Deuteronomy 14 22-29 says I quote, at the end of three years bring the tithe of your produce (Jews within the Holy land) together with the Levites because they were not allowed to own any possesions and those who were poor sit down and eat the tithe not give it to anyone in paticular .
Another point is that it clearly states that if the way to the Temple was too far the Law permitted them to sell the tithes and for money and they could spent it on whatever they desired .
Deuteronomy 14:22-29 NKJ
1, So the bible says at the end of 3yrs not weekly, because the law says that the jews were not allowed to harvest any fruit from their farms for the first 3yrs
2, They were allowed to sell the tithe and turn it into money that means money was not accepted for tithes only food and animals raised and grown within the gates of Israel.And they can spent the money on whatever their hearts desire .
3, The Levites were not allowed to own any possesions according to scripture, and the tithe was “EATEN” in the presence of the Lord ,not spent on holidays or expensive cars,houses …etc
4, Only the Jews were allowed by law to tithe no gentiles were permitted according to Numbers 18:1-3 .or God himself said He will kill them for going near His Holy temple.No Philistines, Amorites,Egyptians, Amalakites..etc were allowed
Please stop tryin to drag christians back to be under the law because you want your pastor or you covet christians money for your own profit. The New Covenant is for everyone including greedy ,coveteous people who twist scriptures for their own profit deceiving christians who do not study the bible.
GO read all of Galatians before you promote this con .
so why are you so bothered about all the laws..can we even start from the news testament first….when last did you give to the poor? when last did you bless someone with your time and energy and prayers? when last did you cloth the naked and feed the hungry??please Joel stop being a hypocrite!!
By promoting money tithes that Christ said in Mathew 23:23 that is included in the law of Moses Christians have unknowingly put themselves under the Mosiac law again. Paul clearly taught in Galatians 5:4 that if we practise or observe one part of the law for example circumcision we “NEED TO KEEP THE REST OF THE LAW GIVEN BY MOSES” or we are guilty . THat means we need to kill people who commit adultry, break the sabbath, kill rebellious children etc..according to the law of Moses
That means that the blood of Jesus was not good enough to redeem us from the curse of the law and Christ death is something of no signifigance or no real importance .
Karen Foley says
Lost and needy souls don’t come to the church because they usually have nothing left to give and it seems that joining a church requires you give or they don’t want you to take up space in their there.
I beleive that God requires you to tithe, you may not give it to all to yor local church, but you should tithe. If your local church is blessing you in any way at all, if your pastor is giving his blood in praying and fasting and if your church is serving your spiritual need in any way then you might consider giving your tithe to your local.
church. Malachi 3:10 (New International Version)
10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.
–A storehouse is a place where you take out of when you need. So according to the bible we should give to a storehouse, that place where we receive when we are in need. In this case that place where our own needs have been met spiritually.
God requires that we give. Its selfish not to give money. Why do we rave and rant when it comes to giving and tithing. What do we have that we did not receive any way?
Gods missionary might as well be in your city, so find that missionary in your city, if you are passionate about your city find the missionary that blesses your city and bless him with your money.
If the offering plate bothers you, then make the beggars plate your offering plate, try giving with an open heart. Give to a beggar in your street with an expectation to receive, God owes no man, and I am sure you will receive something before the end of that week!!
Al Sydney says
The answer to this issue is so simple.Do we pay for our salvation? what about healing?and Gods favour?Gods promises and blessing?.Where do christians get their teaching from?Please stop this nonsense WE CANT MANIPULATE GOD.Its all in the Bible,Apostle Paul clearly teaches in Galatians and the book of Hebrews that if we try to gain Gods favour or try to please God by keeping the law we will be cut off from Christ.Hebrews 8:4 says if Jesus was here on earth He was not allowed to perform or act as a priest because he was not from the Levitical priesthood.Jesus would have sinned.No one here on Earth is allowed to perform or carry out any religious tradition or try to keep the Law of Moses in the old testament.Apostle Paul strongly opposes anyone who tried to go back to the law of Moses.Gentiles are not allowed to practise or go near Gods Holy Priests in the old testament.If Jesus is forbidden from operating as a priest because He was not a Levite what makes you think we are allowed to receive tithes here on earth or continue to practise the law of Moses.Most of the teachers and preachers teach we receive all our blessings for free through faith in the Grace of our Lord Jesus but when it comes to money we have to pay our tithes for God to bless us.Thats a lie from hell.Jesus teaches if you ask anything in my name belive that you have received it and you shall have it.Its the same with Salvation its FREE!!!,JUST BELIVE THAT JESUS DIED FOR YOUR SINS CONFESS HIM AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOUR ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS AND TO HELP YOU LIVE FOR HIM AND YOU SHALL BE SAVED.Apostle Paul did not have a bible like you and me he got his instructions direct from the Holy Spirit.I pray that you go to Jesus for more information on this like Apostle Paul did when he was here on earth.Please honour God with your finances but dont make a big deal about it, he loves us when we walk in his humility Love you Al
Al are you saying that, we are not allowed to partake of the blessings enjoyed in the old testament because we are not levites? why shouldn’t we make a big deal about finances why must christians continue to wallow in penury? Do you know what poverty causes even to cristians? poverty causes divorce, anxieties, heart attacks to mention a few.You say just beleive Jesus died for your sins and confess he is lord, yet you lash out against his principles on giving, do you know how many christians are suffering do to lack, from the Africa to America. Why do you judge me from your holier than thou pinnacle because i choose to beleive what the bible says on giving, and that I will blessed if I give? should i tear my bible in half and throw the old testament in the trash can without beleiving what God says because I am not a jew or a priest or a levi? Yes we dont pay for Gods blessing, but if the bible says if i give i will receive then how dare you judge me because i choose to beleive the whole bible. Yes we receive all our blessings for free but didn’t the bible say it is more blessed to give than to receive? Luke 6: 38: Give, and it will be given to you. They will pour into your lap a good measure– pressed down, shaken together, and running over. For by your standard of measure it will be measured to you in return.”
(Luke 12:33 NIV) Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys.
Acts 20:35 Paul told people “to remember the words of the
Lord Jesus, how he said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Al You dont have to pay your tithes, its your choice, but dont hinder other peoples blessing if they chose to beleive Gods word……its there prerogative not yours
and by the way this as worked for me, every time I give to God and to people in need and I humbly pray and beleive with all my heart I always always receive. So when I chose to give this is my prerogative Al not yours, and yet I get blessed, call it what you like. I call it Gods blessings and rewards and awesome testimony!!
Al Sydney says
Why are you being defensive about tithing ? If we were in the old testament times and I break the sabbath by walking my dog or going for a run to excercise, and you find out. The law of Moses demanded that I am guilty of sin and I have to be killed or I will bring a curse on the nation of Israel. Stop trying to water down what the bible teaches about the law before Christ died its deceptive and damaging to those who do not study the scriptures . Stay with Christ, do not go and try to revive laws that you have no idea about or its penalties.
Your giving or your obedience is all in Christ not from your own ability, PLEASE!!, the fruit you get is from the grace of Christ Jesus revealed to you .So stop your bragging its disgusting and immature. TRY HUMILITY !!!!
PS…..clearly you dont know the difference between bragging and sharing a testimony..I will shout my testimony to the hills..thats the only thing you and the devil cant take away from me……my ability to testify to Gods goodness in my life….I gave to God and God blew my minds he blessed my socks off just as he promised he would in his words if I give…..right up until now everyone keeps asking me how I am able to keep up, especially those that know my circumstances and I cant stop telling them just how good God has been…..so you are been immature and been disgusting bothering on being abusive not me!! (a so called christian you are indeed)…and I overcame by the blood of the lamb and THE WORDS OF MY TESTIMONIES Rev 12:11
I will continue to give my tithes as well as give my money to the lord as it has been working for me; this is my testimony…….and please guys out there keep giving to the lord and as Tolu said above..if you are wary of giving to a church..find a charity and give your money unto ( the lord sees your heart and He will bless you for it!!)or the destitute and poor on the streets..stop hoarding your wealth give give give..it’s more blessed to give than to recieve Acts 20:35 dont let the demonic messages of the likes of Al sidney stop y’all.
Al Sydney says
Give and give more than 50% if you can afford it but please give us a break and let not your right hand know the peanuts your left hand is giving …lol
Do you think I am against honouring God with my finances ?
Try to follow me slowly, I am a very blessed man financialy so stop your bragging .
Humility of Christ is a revelation we all need everyday , I hope you are not trying to open the windows of heaven by paying your unbiblical money tithes .
That verse means “RAIN” so that the crops will grow and be very fruitful but I guess you know that already from a pastor who brain washed you …lol
I walk by faith and that is why I am blessed not by deception or manipulation misinterpreting and twisting scripture for profit .
Al Sydney, look who’s talking about humility…….do you even know the definition of that word!!!!…..I don’t care about what your definition of humility is ….how can you tell me that telling the world that my God has been good to me is a sign of pride?!!! You just cant bear the fact that I am able to share my testimony now can you? ..and you hate being forced to eat the humble pie …….well that’s your business not mine…as for me I will continue to declare it to the hills …..HOW DO YOU KNOW I’VE BEEN MANIPULATED? you don’t know anything about me YET you proudly declare that a pastor has brainwashed me? Cant i read my own bible and can’t the holy spirit give me understanding of the Word? Do you think every other Christian is beneath you and cannot understand the scriptures which is a gift to us all? Do you think you are superior to all Christians, and the rest of us have been brainwashed right? You result to proud mockery and abusive language?!! I AM SHOCKED!!! and SUCH HUMILITY THAT YOU HAVE INDEED!!
the lord blessed me and He has been good to me… …so eat these my last words Al sydney, I know it’s a hard fact for you to swallow ..but GET THIS …..my last words to you on the matter……MY GOD HAS BLESSED MY SOCKS OFF AND I WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE !!!……
Or is it Tmoney Unbiblical tithe promoter ? I like it whern you go off like that to try and sell tithing for those inocent christians who are too trusting to believe this tithe fraud .
I repeat again, to go back and try to practise or observe any of the Mosaic law is to declare that Jesus death and his blood was not sufficient to free us from the curse of the law . Cant you see how stupid that is ? You are selling Satans deception and his disregard for Christ death on the cross. This means we have to pay unbilical money tithe to stop the curse.
You cant use Malachi 3:10 promises of “RAIN” for the crops to grow and be fruitful that was given to the Levites and was “EATEN” Deuteronomy 14:22-29 and “CON christians that the New Covenant Christians are required to pay money tithes to stop the “CURSE” .THat is a “LIE” from Hell .
Tmoney either Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law or we are still cursed, that means we have to pay pastors money (10%) to stop the curse ?..lol
That is ridiculous, irresponsible,rude,arrogant, uninformed and stupid to say the least.
This is free to open your eyes , 2 Corinthian 8:12 NKJ,NLT,AMP
Paul taught Christians on how to give to support the gospel,
It says “TO GIVE WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD” but unless you like to ignore that because your pastor or you are more spiritual than Apostle Paul then go ahead and promote your lies and see what God say about it for the defrauding christians and lying about scripture.
Tmoney Corporate fraud is illegal anywhere in the world, it can end you up in jail, I wonder how God deals with people defrauding his sheep with money tithes ?….lol
Al Sydney says
I dont meant to offend you but you sound like one of those Pharasies and Saducees who followed Jesus around so proud and arogant on how perfect they kept the Mosaic law.
Give yourself a break, many pastors will never tell you about the sripture that Joel mentioned 2 Corinthians 8:12 on his post because of fear that the church will find out that they are lying about tithing in the New Covenant
I have never heard any pastor or teacher quote 2 Corinthians 8:12 from a pulpit before. That is how christians should give.
I pesonaly know a christian who gave a 100million US dollars to support the gospel because he can afford it but not many know because he does not go around and brag about it .
How would you like to go and say to someone living on the street that God loves them but unless you pay our church pastor 10% of your gross income God will curse you and you will live under that curse until you help pay for our pastors salary. …lol
This is funny, I know some very wealty people what are you going to say to them about paying 10% of their income to help pay for your pastors salary when 1% of their net worth is more then your church will ever have in 50yrs ?…lol
Al Sydney says
Read what Paul wrote in Galatians 5:1-10 , Paul meant if you keep just one eg: circumcision,tithing,sabbath, or any of the judicial,civil, or ceremonial laws you need to keep the whole lot or you are guilty and Paul added “YOU ARE CUT OFF FROM CHRIST” that is a nice reward for keeping tithing .
This is so easy to understand if you come down to earth and start using your brain God gave you but if you still dont get it then give all your money to your pastor so that he can have your own little window of blessing …lol .
You cant mix the blood of Christ with the blood of animals in the old covenant ,
In other words the old covenant and the new covenant can not be mixed, unless you are absolutely stupid .
yeah I know it’s not from my own ability and I bless my God for making it possible for me to give. I’m not been defensive I’m just stating facts as it is and you are the one watering it down , not me…you are trying to pull the wool over the eyes of people so that they do not give their tithes. That Christ died doesn’t mean everything in the old testament is null and void but it does mean we have been rescued from the heavy penalties of the law as it was before christ died go read Romans 7 & 8……You are trying to be cunning and deceptive just as the serpent did in the garden of eden….What penalties are you talking about? we are no longer bounded by the law and we do not get penalised under the law…that Christ died for us means we are now in the period of grace and even if you do not do what you are meant to do, God will deal with you in his own way and not by any Judaic law, and Gods discipline might even be heavier that the judaic laws!!!. Why are you so bothered anyway? If it doesn’t matter why are you going all out to campaign against it…if you cant give your tithe dont, thats between you and God but dont hinder the people that want to ..STOP TRYING TO PULL THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES….and you shall know the truth and truth shall set you free!!!