Top 10 Reasons Why Tithing is Not Required

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1. The Holy Spirit is our new teacher, not the Mosaic law (Romans 12:8; Galatians 5:18-25)

2. There is no command for the New Covenant Church to tithe (Genesis – Revelation)

3. Tithing was used for the temple storehouse & ceremonial system (Nehemiah 10:37; Deuteronomy 12:17,18)

4. 10% giving is not an eternal principle nor a character trait of God (Romans 8:32)

5. The church is not commanded to follow the ordinances of Abraham and Moses (John 7:21-24)

6. A tithe only consisted of agricultural increase (Leviticus 27:30)

7. Tithing is not the minimum amount mentioned in scripture (Romans 12:1; Matthew 25:24-28)

8. An OT ceremony paralleled the future Church with a freewill offering (Deuteronomy 16:10)

9. We have new commands of giving (1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 9:7; Galatians 5:18-25)

10. I will leave out #10 and see what many of you come up with

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119 comments on “Top 10 Reasons Why Tithing is Not Required
  1. Peter says:

    I stumbled on to this website looking to see what other are saying with regards to tithing/offering as the bible does not seem to be clear. Hearing everyones arguments/opinons/facts from the bible, things became clear as mud. But returning to the bible (which we all seem to do), I was reminded that like other areas that are not so cut and dry such as which foods to eat, drinking alcohol, to marry or not to marry and many others. In Romans (Chapter 14) and I Corinthians (Chapter 7 and 8) I’m hearing that it can be good to one and not the other (regarding these areas that are shall we say “grey”) as one may believe it is good/right while another may not. We are told not to despise the one who does and not to judge the one that does not for God has recieved him. We are to let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. We need to do what we do out of faith as we will all have to give account of himself to God We should ensure that we are not creating stumbling blocks for ourselves or others. Keeping in mind that happy is the man that does not condemeth himself in the thing which he alloweth.

  2. nuevonacida says:

    To Suzie:
    Heb. 8:6 reads:
    “But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. ”

    Your version of Heb. 8:6 reads quite differently! It doesn’t say everything you wrote. If we quote scripture, we need to quote it correctly, without editing or personal opinion. Personal opinion and insight is fine, just don’t add words that are not part of a scripture to make opinion credible. Some of your points were good.

    We all have to be responsible on how we quote scripture, especially with so many new believers trying to learn and understand the bible.

    Your version: Hebrews 8:6 said Christ offers a better covenant under better promises and nothing ios said about keeping the sabbath on any particular day or circumcision.

    Your personal view with old laws as written in your email may confuse the issue and topic at hand here, to those who are still growing in their walk with Christ. The topic is the tithe.

    YOUR OPINION: We are under the New Covenant & Dispensation of Grace not 613 Jewish laws, customs or feast. Thank God or you would be guilty of breaking the law by not keeping the SABBATH FRIDAY NIGHT TILL SAT. NIGHT OR FOR NOT BEING CIRCUMCISED OR EATING PORK OR FOR ANY OF THE OTHER OLD COVENANT LAWS!
    >

    A New Covenant
    Hebrew 8:7
    7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the LORD.

    • Anonymous says:

      Lean what Grace and Paid in full means. Here are more Scriptures of interest

      Galatians 3:24
      Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

      Galatians 3:25
      But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

      John 1:16
      6And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

      John 1:17
      For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

    • Anonymous says:

      There are several bible versions and this was one but the meaning of it is the same
      Please do not accuse me of adding words which is what you have done to justify an Old Covenant law. Stop working and being active on Saturdays (the Sabbath) observe all Jewish feast and rituals including Circumcision of all male babies on the eighth day, then you would at least be consistent!

      • nuevonacida says:

        No one is attacking you. Be at peace. This is a discussion blog, amen?

        We all have to be responsible on how we quote scripture, especially with so many new believers trying to learn and understand the bible.

        • Anonymous says:

          Don’t spin it or twist it, because what you should is what it is.
          New Converts can read the bible scriptures I quoted for themselves in all authorized versions and take a guess at what is the truth or not!

          I am at peace in my acceptance of the Lord’s unmerited favor !
          It is actually called Grace because of the payment Jesus made and not my own!

          • Anonymous says:

            It is what it is! People trying to be justified by the Law may not even be saved but may have fallen from Grace according to Galatians 5:4

            The Holy Spirit in you (if we are saved & born again) is now our guide and teacher. Not outward laws and rituals that were written in stone but not in the heart. Cults are the most moral law-abiding people their are but keeping rituals and outward laws does not justify you before God! Jesus is our justification and has freely given us all things if we are his!

  3. nuevonacida says:

    I would like to say to the authors of this website, you have done a very good thing here by bringing this topic to all who will listen to wisdom. This is so controversial and Minstries everywhere are attempting with great effort to keep people blind to the truth, after all, the tithe is their bread and butter.

    I simply wanted to commend you for taking on this monolithic task regarding: Is tithing for today.

    God bless you and anoint you to endure with great courage with what is about to bombard the Body of Christ!

  4. Anonymous says:

    This is a bible verse the tithe propagandist will never explain
    5:4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Matthew 23:23 was before the law Gentiles have been grafted into a New Covenant of Grace period! The definition of Grace is unearned and undeserved favor!

    Romans 8:32
    He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

    TIthe Propagadist will never find one Scripture that supports law keeping to be in Covenant with God, after Jesus died on the Cross. They need a revelation on the word and meaning of Grace!

  6. Anonymous says:

    Colossians 2:14
    Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

    Galatians 3:13
    Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

  7. Anonymous says:

    Bible versions King James, New King James, Zondervan, Amplified, New International Version and others that are authorized Christian bible versions. Not the ones cults have changed and added to take away from the Deity of Christ as God in the flesh and Immanuel “God with us”!

  8. I will finally bring these verses up that I have never seen used to this point, except by Russ are Ephesians 2 and Colosians 2.

    #5, in the conclusion of this article is what I have stated before.
    “5. There is nothing wrong with giving 10% of one’s income to God but an understanding of NT teaching puts that practice into proper perspective. Christians are not obliged to tithe as in the NT the principle of tithing is replaced by the principle of grace giving.”

    http://www.cultwatch.com/tithing.html

    I would like to paraphrase that into my own words. Giving ten percent or tithing should not be based off of OLD TESTAMENT teaching. It should be a willful act of an individual that has no basis in Jewish Law or Pre-OT Law. If tithing is taught, for whatever reason, it should never be used by a preacher as some sort of guideline to give money. Someone deciding to Give ten percent, should be no different that one who gives 7%. Now how many people do you think go around calculating 7% of their gross or net to give? But as I said before, 10% of what? Why does it have to be money?

  9. Beaumann2001 says:

    Wow, brothers and sisters. So much debate about tithing, So what if i choose to give 10% or 5% or even 0%. What matters is i do not put my money in front of God. What matters is that God is the center of my life. I think both sides are making great arguements, no doubt. But i must say if we think that we are going to buy God off, we are very disallusioned, and also if we think that all pastors, bishops, or elders are false teachers, again we are disallusioned. It reminds me of when Elijah said he was the only prophet left who had not bowed down to Baal, but God reminded him that he still had several thousand who had not bowed down. I know that God still has a remnant of great men and women who are doing the right thing by him, and we should not do nothing. We absolutely should be good stewards of the things that God has given us, and if God leads to bless a ministry, or outreach, or homeless shelter by all means do so, but do not leave God out of the decision, and by all means do it out of the love of your heart, not the want of your hands. But please verify the fruits of any organization that you are blessing. I choose to give more than 10% to God. (notice i said choose) But my sacrifice (not tithe) does not always go to a building, alot of times it goes to individuals with needs in their lives, i dont think that there is a scripture in the bible that forbids us from helping out our brothers and sisters when they are down on there luck. (if there is i am very sorry) So what if you dont tithe, i still love you, God still loves you. So what if you do tithe, i still love you, God still loves you. It has never been about money with God.

    • nuevonacida says:

      It’s good to hear “you choose to” that’s how it should be.  Many Pastor badger their congregation pulling the heartstring of their emotions.  I do not believe they all start out with evil intentions.  I do believe when the money starts pouring in — somewhere along the line they sucuumb to the seduction of money and their hearts change.    They begin to spend money on themselves and lavish lifestyles. Justifying in the way you mentioned, “God is blessing us.”   This could not be further from the truth.   They asked for the money.   They say we need this or that. Outreaches are FREE.   Volunteers do the work.   Some churches have “open books” to avoid confusion as to where the money goes that is collected.  Those that do not have open books, please question the stewardship.   Remember, when that property and church building is paid off, there is only one owner and it’s not the congregation.   When they take trips to Europe or wherever on a constant basis, their kids go to the best schools, they drive fancy expensive cars, remember that your giving made it all possible.   That is not the will of God.   How many apostles or disciples lived like alot of these Pastors do? God bless. 

  10. All through the old testiment tithes were given to the priests. aslong as there is a priest then it is required that tithes be given .The priesthood of malchesadac;which was christ in the old testiment;and is still christin the new testiment; as our high priest.As long as we have a high priest;then it is the law of God that we tithe.

  11. McLanche says:

    Malachi is Old Covenant and is never quoted in the New Covenant to validate tithing (Lev 27:34; Neh 10:28-29; Mal 3:7; 4:4).

    In Malachi 3:10-11 tithes are still only food 1000 years after Leviticus 27.

    The blessings and curses of tithing are identical to and inseparable from those of the entire Mosaic Law. The rain in Deuteronomy 28:12, 23-24 and Leviticus 26:1-4 is only obtained by obedience to all 600+ commandments. Galatians 3:10 (quoting Deu 27:26) “For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.” Trying to earn God’s blessings through tithing only brought curses for failure to keep all of the law. See also Galatians 3:19.

    PRIEST-THIEVES: Beginning in 1:6 “you” in Malachi always refers to the dishonest priests and not the people (also 2:1-10; 2:13 to 3:1-5): “Even this whole nation of you—priests” (3:9). In 1:13-14 the priests had stolen tithed animals vowed to God. In Nehemiah 13:5-10 priests had stolen the Levites’ portion of the tithe. God’s curses on the priests are ignored by most tithe-teachers (1:14; 2:2 and 3:2-4).

    The 24 courses of Levites and priests must be included in a correct interpretation of Malachi 3 and they are not. Normally only 2% of the total Levite and priest work force served at the temple one week at a time. Subtract wives, males under the age of 30 and daughters. Therefore 2% did not require all the tithe. See 1 Chron 23-26; see also 28:13, 21; 2 Chron 8:14; 23:8; 31:2, 15-19; 35:4, 5, 10; Ezra 6:18; Neh 11:19, 30; 12:24; 13:9, 10; Luke 1:5.

    While the 3:10 of the Law in Malachi is so important to tithe-teachers they ignore the 3:10 of the Gospel in Galatians and 2nd Corinthians. Perhaps those wanting to enforce the 3:10 Law of Malachi should also enforce the 3:10 Law of Numbers. They share the same context.

    Praise God for all the cataracts falling off of the eyes of His people.

  12. Jill says:

    I found this website because I am so confused. I want to be an obedient Christian, I love our church, but last week the teacher said that if we don’t tithe, we are sinning and robbing God. This discussion here has at least opened my eyes to the main reason for the controversy: OT Law vs New Covenant. But man, I still am not sure what I believe as we so tend to trust those in the pulpit?

    • nuevonacida says:

      Jill, guilt and condemnation do not come from God.  The bible says, Jesus told us the greatest commandment is Love.  Not tithe.  Tithing command isn’t in the bible.  Scripture is distorted and taken out of context to collect tithes.   Malachi is the most misused scripture ever.  If you take the time to read earlier posts, there is a section on how to interpret Malachi and what “IT REALLY MEANS.”   You are not robbing God or sinning if you do not tithe.  Be free!   It amazes me how the tithe is the only “old testament” scripture todays Pastors are adamant about!   Don’t be deceive.   I truly believe God is raising up websites like this one, to enlighten the deceived body of Christ.   If a person wants to give they are free to give!   I was so shocked when I recently (2 weeks ago) heard a Pastor say people had to be obedient and NOT pay their electric bill or their mortgate if it meant they don’t get to tithe!     What??????????????????   Are you kidding me?   Caution!!! The offerings a Pastor takes up or asks for, it can only mean one thing!   The ministry is faltering financially!   No doubt!    They are living a lifestyle that means they are writing checks they can’t cash!      I’m not saying don’t give, I’m saying don’t be coerced into giving.    You alone can control what you give.  Do it.  Take control of your pocketbook.   Many Pastors say, “If I’m not preaching the bible or the word of God you can leave this church.”      Notice you will never hear them say, “If I’m not being a good steward with the offerings we take up, you can leave this church.”     What is a false prophet?     Is it those who preach the word of God and don’t follow it themselves?    I think so.   God bless.

    • Marilyn says:

      Jill, most of us have been confused about this issue for so long. We are told that we are no longer under the old law but under grace. Yet, Malachi has been used so badly to emotionally extort money from the believers. It is very easy to become enamoured with these pastors and believe how we are to  just hand over 10% of our income especially with the condemnation of how we are robbing God if we don’t tithe. Many Evangelical churches with the fancy hi-tech services for Sunday Service will have these heart-wrenching videos of how God blesses those who do tithe.
      It is almost a Santa Claus mentality: be good and do what is told so you get your material reward. Not all people tithing are going to find their living expenses magically paid. I have also heard the testimonies in one church I used to attend of how a woman gave her last $25.00 to the collection basket despite a disconnection notice from the power company if the bill was not paid. Her claim was God told her to give that money and a man walked up to her after services with a cheque in an envelope for the exact amount (to the penny) for her bill. Mind you, the man supposedly was not to have known of this lady’s financial quandary. I find this a bit hard to believe. Call me a skeptic but this story is either not true at all or someone close to the woman flagged the other person re: her predicament and the money drop in exchange for the bill to be paid was just another PR stunt for the church to use. The churches have used shills before in the audience re: miraculous healings to get the people to return or to give moneys.
      Jill, don’t trust those in the pulpit. If these men did not have the word “Pastor” before their names, they would be just another of the many seas of faces among the Average Joes out there. There is nothing special about them except they have a great gift for gab and know how to put the “feel good” talk on….or the guilt trip. Another ruse for these tithes is how the church is in so much debt (usually to a not-needed building extension). The mortgage is coming due of excess of $500,000 or more and the tithing message often comes along with the building fund talk. It happens in the Catholic Church as well when one long-time pastor of a parish built a lavish new church building and told people how they should feel ashamed to come to Mass in this new building unless they paid into the fund. Chances are that the majority of the people were not even asked if they supported such an expensive expansion.
      It is also about the greed of the man in the pulpit even if he has justified it to himself re: tithing. Most of these men live very good lifestyles at the expense of the church. I am not saying a cleric should live in substandard housing but it does not look good if the Head Fathers are living large with their families while many of their congregates can barely afford to get by every month in this recession while being told that a $20 weekly donation is still not enough. Also, the tithes of Malachi was not solely moneys but bringing crops to the synagogue to help feed the priests/rabbis. Offer to bring ten percent of the groceries bought to feed the poor and see what response that gets.
      God expects each of us to take care of ourselves the best we can. Going without to support a building was never part of God’s plan. The Temple in the OT was a community centre of sorts where everyone benefited rather than a select few. I am glad I have woken up and seen the “light” re: tithing. It was ridiculous that I should skimp on heat during this extremely chilly Winter because I felt obligated to give 10% of my monthly income to the church, an expansive building that is only used one day out of the year.

  13. Derrick says:

    Marty and Nuevonacida are absolutely correct, go back and read what they have said. It is biblical and on point. WE ARE NOT  commanded in the NT to tithe. End of story.

  14. Jonathan says:

    Thanks for this post, I’m glad people are studying the Bible for themselves to learn the truth about things like tithing, I have not heard a singular pro-tithing argument that could stand up to Biblical light.

    I recently wrote a blog post on this same issue:
    http://biblicist.blog.com/2011/05/07/on-tithing-and-other-laws/

  15. Jesus Exalter says:

    There seem to be so many church pastors about that are putting their sheep into guilt and fear by demanding a “tithe” when what they call a “tithe” is different to what it was in the Old Testament anyway, that I cannot see a Revival taking place unless we get back to the Truth of Giving what we want CHEERFULLY which will set us free again. I call on all “Tithe” Pastors who are living in luxury from their teachings whilst some of their sheep who are giving 10% of their meagre incomes are struggling to make ends meet, to study the Word correctly and show some Christian compassion on the poor in their midst, remembering the parable of the Good Samariton.

  16. Janet says:

    Luke 6:38 Give and it shall be given ….good measure, pressed down,shaken together and running over, shall men give into your bossom.  For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured unto you again.

    We spend too much time debating and not enough time loving!!!  Love will cover a multitude of sins!
    Children, let us not love with word, nor with tongue, but in deed and in truth. I John 3:18 

    • Janet,
      is reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness outside the realm of love?

      • Jesus Exalter says:

        Well said Steward,
        I’ve just read your blog from 7/25/2010.
        George Muller who regularly gave 5% of his income whilst looking after loads of orphans out of love for Christ was well looked after by God, even in the hard times. But according to a lot of ‘tithe’ teachers, his finances should have been cursed by God as he gave less than 10% !

    • Jesus Exalter says:

      Well said Janet, The apostle Paul Loved and Debated in Love though!

  17. Shaunda says:

    I think many of us are missing the point. I serve a HUGE, GREAT, MARVELOUS, HOLY, AMAZING GOD. Who has loved me and saved me and allowed me to call him “Father”. Why would I not give him MORE than 10% of the money that HE blessed me with in the first place. So yes, I am a tither and an offering giver, and pursuant to His Word (2 Cor.9:6-10, etc), I do expect to be blessed, but that it is not my motivation: I give as an expression of my love and submission to Christ. I look forward to being able to give more and more!

    • Shaunda,
      The point is that it’s not about hitting a percentage above 10% or below 10%. It’s not about going to church twice a week, praying before each meal, and reading at least 15 minutes of your bible every day. These mechanical ordinances may have been required once, but ever since God developed a personal relationship with his children that allows us to petition the will of God without legalism getting in the way.

      - jared

  18. Reesie says:

    The principle underlying tithes is that God’s people are to honor Him with the first-fruits of their increase, the first ten percent. In our day, this is usually in the form of money. I do not believe tithes is a law per se. I believe it is a matter of faith. It is walking in faith and honoring God. While I do agree that what we give or don’t give does not mean we are doomed yo Hell, I do believe that it is a personal thing. I also believe that where a man’s heart is is where he tends to put his money. One may say that the giving of the tithe was for a specific purpose, so maybe we should invest in things of today that pursue that purpose. I tithe, and I am not a pusher of my opinion. The one thing that I am really big on is making sure that what I do is spirit led. Everyone should consult God in their giving and give cheerfully or not at all. This is what I believe.

    • joel says:

      Hi Reesie,
      If I lie and misrepresent myself or promote any product for financial benefit from anyone that means I committed FRAUD, Do you agree ? Yes or No ?
      Then if I delibrately misinterbret the bible for financial gain, it is also called FRAUD, Do you agree ? Yes or No ?
      Who do you think gave the power to politicians to make and pass the legislation concerning FRAUD ? Jesus said no power is given unless its from His father.
      God is ultimately behind the Legislation passed to protect people from FRAUD

  19. Heynonymuss says:

    The reason there are mechanical guidelines for Christians is because if there weren’t, people wouldn’t give, or pray, or read their bible. When the bible says give cheerfully, it doesn’t mean don’t give if you’re not cheerful. Just because the tithe is an OT principle doesn’t mean it’s bad. We use the tithe as a minimum guideline, and give over and above when we feel led. And honestly, if you have to choose between your gas bill and giving to God’s work, I’m willing to bet there are some poor spending habits involved.

    • Do you need mechanical guidelines in order give to the ones you love here on earth?

    • joel says:

      I dont know wether to laugh or feel sorry for you,
      Listen when you find a guideline how to line your pastors pockets with money defrauded from christians please let us know..lol
      Here is a good one, Jesus gave alms to the poor, these days pastors take money from the poor so they can live life of excess and greed..lol

      • Marilyn says:

        attempted to tithe for about three months. I am fortunate to where I am not broke but it did cause havoc with my finances for about that time. It is assumed how it is easy for anyone to just tithe despite cost of living soaring in the United States and how a lot of us pay out-of-pocket for health insurance. The church I attended is in debt due to a hefty mortgage for a new building. The pastor lives an opulent lifestyle in a gated community in this area. First thing, this new building addition was not needed. The church had gone to one service and the sanctuary still 1/3 empty on Sundays. God has expected all of us to be good stewards of our money…not just the congregation while the pastor and his administrative committees have made decisions that were not financially prudent. I have returned to the faith of my upbringing where it is not preached how a certain percentage is expected in the Sunday collection basket. There are also no music directors and their bands or auditorium-like settings. The church building is very nice but also humble at the same time. We do not need to whoop it up with “praise music,” see videos, or have fancy lighting to praise the Lord. During the year I was with an Evangelical church, I have witnessed so much greed attached to tithing. How many churches have added more buildings to their property that are only used one to two days out of the week? Where is the reverence for the worship when it has become more of an entertainment hour? I do not believe the clergy should live like paupers but no minister/pastor should live in fancy surroundings while asking his flock to contribute a hefty amount of their income monthly. It is really sad how it is 2012 and people, who can least afford it, are still being targeted by guilt to throw that money into the collection basket every week. If tithing blessed every person who participated, there would be no more poverty worldwide.

        • matt says:

          our responsibility is to be obediant.  we cannot be responsible, nor are we responsible for someone  else’s obediance or lack thereof.  God doesn’t want our money.  He doesn’t need our money.  He wants us to have a heart that gives because we are told to; a heart that gives because we want to – - because we recognize that the money and possessions we have are not ours in the first place, and will not travel with us when we die.

          • matt says:

            granted, i also believe the tithe is between you and God.  He knows your heart; He knows what you are sincere about – just as the woman in mark 12:44 who gave “all she had”  or at least, all she was able to give

          • Marilyn says:

            Yes, we are to be obedient to God and cannot be responsible for anyone else’s behaviour. Many people use this attitude stating how they tithe moneys they cannot afford to give to an expensive church stating how the greedy pastors will be held responsible for their actions. That is true; however, God gave us brains and, hopefully, common sense. If people are giving beyond their means, there will not be a magical blessing to make up for the bills which do not get paid. Don’t tithe to the church and write a list of the good and bad things that happen for the next two months. Mots people will find that the bad vs good things are life on life’s terms and not God punishing us for refusal to tithe.

  20. ministerneal says:

    Praise the Lord! wow great conversation. When I discovered the truth about Christians not required to pay tithes, I took the idea to my church leaders.  Needless to say I was ostracized and heavily persecuted by my pastor. To the point I had to leave that church and eventually back slid. Thanks be unto God that He saw fit to redeem me again and restore me. Tithing is a cruel trick of the enemy to bring confusion,and condemnation. Paul the apostle didn’t spend any time on the subject of tithing because it wasn’t an issue with him. It wasn’t an issue with our Lord Jesus either. It is oppressive and a false teaching that is prevalent in the church today. We need God to bring us to the light on this subject. Thank You Lord…I love you for truth.

  21. Daniel says:

    Ummm…. I’m not sure I get your arguments… Help me sort them out, please.

    You have argued on your site that “Abraham was under an Old Testament covenant” and his example of tithing would be considered a standard and not a principle. [Generally "the Law" is considered the "Old Testament covenant"... you seem to place the "old" as the entire time between creation and church...]

    Yet in Romans 4 Paul uses Abraham as an example of someone who was justified by faith before the Law (“old covenant”). Following your argument would then seem to place salvation by “faith” as an old covenant standard.

    James says that our faith is demonstrated by our behavior. Abraham demonstrates his faith by tithing.

    Another old covenant practice that is upheld by the “new covenant” is found in Hebrews 4:11… the Sabbath (also Old Testament Law/covenant) is a physical reality reflecting our spiritual state (in other words Sabbath = heaven).

    I guess your argument seems to hinges on two things. 1.) the old “dispensational” view that what is from the old dispensation does not influence the new dispensation. This seems to be a dichotomy that argues from silence. One could flip the question and ask where tithing is PROHIBITED to the church under the new covenant/dispensation. [Paul's arguments about the Law are in context to circumcision and attempting to earn/maintain salvation through works.] 2.) that freedom from the old covenant means we are NOT grafted into a SINGLE spiritual line (see Romans 11) where the same God (yesterday, today, and forever) has ALWAYS maintained the same standards/practices/principles for salvation and behavior according to that salvation. Instead by using the dichotomy between “old” covenant and “new” covenant we are then a new tree instead. [This makes your argument of a dichotomy sound heretical since there is no other legitimate spiritual line.]

    In another place you note that the only “practices” of the church are baptism and communion…. and tithing must be excluded as a “practice.” Lay aside the subtle shift in labels… (“practice” rather than “ordinance”) and a very important detail of the story seems to be ignored: Melchizedek shows up with bread and wine (reflecting the future church practice of “communion”) and Abraham responds with a tithe (a symbolic recognition that God owns everything). If Moses is to be believed… then the tithe is not a “standard” as you call it… it is a response of gratitude and respect for God.

    In another place you note that tithing was to do three things… support the priests, fund the festivals, and care for the poor. Yet the command to tithe in Malachi 3:10 is in context of “I the Lord do not change” (3:7) and “Will man rob God?” (3:8) This is all in context of a sound condemnation of a rejected priesthood and festival practices [see Malachi 1:10]… yet God still INSISTS on the tithe to be given to this rejected system. This does not make sense unless the tithe were part of the “moral” code (such as the upholding of the Sabbath principle) of the “old covenant” (in other words, it was a “principle” and not a “practice” — your terms).

    If we want a “new” response to salvation, then as believers in Christ’s shed blood as the atonement for our sin we understand that God owns EVERYTHING (not just 10 percent). The tithe is symbolic of that ownership and that owner God has the right to ask ANYTHING of us at any time. The tithe is “earnest money” so to speak that when the Holy Spirit moves us to give, it is cheerfully and unconditionally obedient to whatever God tells us to give.

    What stands to follow is that withholding the tithe is denying the Lordship of Jesus.

  22. JesusExalter says:

    I would just like to point out to everyone who says that they tithe, that it is impossible to tithe if you live OUTSIDE the land of ISRAEL, since the tithe was never accepted from anyone living outside of Israel. And even if you live INSIDE ISRAEL, the tithe was ALWAYS paid in AGRICULTURAL PRODUCE by farmers, herdsman and shepherds etc. So you can say you give 10% of your net or gross income, but you can’t call it a TITHE!

  23. Mark says:

    If anyone who claims Christ as a Savior, and then decides that He isnt worth giving 10% as a starting point for giving, has decided that his money is more important than God, as its all God’s anyways. Remember how God received it when Cain decided “just a little bit” is enough to give? Well, I do.

    • Mark, I agree. If we don’t pray 3 times a day for 15 minutes minium. Also if we don’t read your bible a minimum of 30 minutes a day. And one last thing . . . if we aren’t serving Jesus and the community a minimum of 10% of your waking hours, then you are one pathetic christian. Jesus gave us 24 hours in a day, so how can Jesus not be worth a minimum of 2.4 hours every day?

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