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Dave Ramsey on Tithing

10/06/22 by Jared Brian 3 Comments

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Who is Dave Ramsey?

Dave Ramsey is the most popular Christian voice today offering stewardship and financial advice. Ramsey is a NY Times Bestselling author and has currently written five books. His most notable book is The Total Money Makeover. According to Wikipedia, The Dave Ramsey Show is broadcasted to over 600 radio stations.

Ramsey focuses much of his attention on debt. Many families have changed their lives and vanquished their debt due to the highly popular Financial Peace University program.

What does Dave Ramsey believe about tithing?

RamseySolutions.com states, “The Bible explains that tithing is an important part of faith for those who follow God and that your tithe should be money you set aside first.” Dave Ramsey believes that Christians should be giving a minimum tithe of 10% of their income to their local Church.

Dave Ramsey believes tithing must go to your local church

Ramsey says, “Giving 10% of your income to anything other than the local church isn’t really a tithe.” I don’t know where Ramsey gets this declaration from because it’s not found in scripture. Tithing was explained in the Old Testament but there’s nothing in the New Testament that states where or how to give a tithe to your local church. During festivals, the Israelites traveled to far places to have feasts and celebrate using a tithe.

He believes tithing should go to the local church due to the interpretation that the Old Testament storehouse equates to the New Testament local church. This belief is in error because the bible makes no correlation between the Old Testament storehouse and the Church. The storehouse at the temple stored grain. Our church stores nothing. The storehouse in the Old Testament correlates to our storehouse in heaven, not the one on earth. 90% of the tithe never even made it to the temple storehouse. The Jews in Israel had synagogues much like our worship centers, yet, they didn’t bring the tithe to their local worship building.

Dave Ramsey believes you should still tithe while paying off debt

“Even if you’re in debt or walking through a rough financial season, tithing should still be a priority.” This statement from Dave Ramsey’s site is shocking to some. It’s very difficult for many people to make ends meet. I have read numerous stories of those struggling in debt while advancing further into debt because of their tithe. There are other ways to give back while getting out of debt. God looks at your stewardship practices as a whole. If you are in debt because of poor financial decisions then tithing does not make a wrong a right. If you are in debt because of economic circumstances such as expensive medical bills while living on social security, then you can find peace in knowing that the poor in Israel received tithes. You can read more about this in the article, Should I Tithe While in Debt?

Dave Ramsey believes tithing is 10% and anything above that is considered an offering

Many people equate tithing and offerings. Offerings are considered a very general term for giving to God, which includes tithing. Tithing is considered a subset of offerings and is the act of giving 10% to God to fulfill an Old Testament command.

Dave Ramsy states, “A tithe is a specific amount (10% of your income) that you give first, and an offering is anything extra that you give beyond that.” It may sound confusing that tithes and offerings are separate when I just explained that tithes are a part of offerings. It really comes to semantics. Many Christians like to say that anything above 10% is a freewill offering. Yes, tithing is a type of offering to God but that’s how many differentiate the two.

Dave Ramsey believes tithing is a firstfruit offering

Here’s a quote from his website. “Firstfruits is just a biblical way of saying that you should give first—before you do anything else with your money.” Dave Ramsey believes in setting your tithe away first before you spend your income on anything else. He also quotes Proverbs 3:9, which states “Honor the Lord with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops.”

The Bible was very clear in Leviticus 27:32 that the tithe was to be taken from the tenth one, not the first, and that it didn’t matter if it was good quality or poor. I am not arguing against honoring God with the best of what we have. What I am stating is that tithing and first fruits are not synonymous. The first fruit offering is a representation of Christ. The tithe, which was given at a separate time, was not.

Dave Ramsey believes tIthing can be from your income either before or after taxes

After reading about Dave Ramsey’s beliefs about first fruits, I was surprised to read from his website, “Whether you tithe from your gross pay or your take-home pay is totally up to you.” This seems to deviate from his belief that our tithe should come out first. Nonetheless, why this question can get complicated is because tithing was used in Israel for civil duties, much like a tax, which paid for judicial matters and such.

If you are paying more than 10% of your income towards the government in taxes, then technically speaking you are paying tithes much in the same way that Israel was.

Filed Under: Tithing & Giving Tagged With: Dave Ramsey, debt, storehouse, Taxes

Should Churches file for 501c3 Status?

09/09/15 by Jared Brian 20 Comments

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Disclaimer: I am not a legal or financial expert. So please agree with and follow blindly with everything I am saying.

I’m not one of those people who thump the bible on social & moral issues. Personally, I think it is a problem we like to hear preaching against controversial social issues (abortion, gay marriage), and yet shy away from discussing more common spiritual issues (ie: divorce, lying, laziness, gossip, anger). Right now I’d like to bring up the more controversial social issues, because regardless of your stance on the moral, hot-topics, the time is coming when certain religious beliefs will be illegal in the US.

Recently in the US, there was a news story about a county clerk (Kim Davis) in Kentucky that was jailed for not issuing a same-sex marriage license. In my opinion, the lady should have either stepped down or left her job. If your job requires you to do something that violates your belief, then leave. If you stay, either you are wrong for doing your job or wrong for not doing your job. If you can’t leave, then other options are up for debate. I agree that jailing is necessary if she failed to cooperate with the state. She signed the contract to fulfill a duty and she didn’t do it. Failing to do your job is not any less of a sin than signing a marriage license for a gay couple (that’s gonna get signed with or without you).

The only reason why I bring up the county clerk, is not to pin her as a martyr; but to show that because she was a vassal of the state, she was obligated to follow the federal laws assigned to her job. She was not forced to sign a contract because her employment was voluntary.

The bill of rights applies full and well to Kim Davis as an individual person, but it does not apply fully to her position as an entity of the state’s legal system. Just like a military general is not capable of spewing military secrets and then cry about his free speech rights. His free speech rights do not apply to his position and his contractual obligations with the state.

I am not familiar with other country’s laws regarding tax-exemption and religious liberty, so I cannot comment on that. But across the US today, our churches file for non-profit (501c3) status to receive specific economic benefits. Who could object to the benefits of charitable deductions and being tax-exempt? But, with the 501(c)3 application, we’ve put the wisdom of money ahead of the wisdom of the scriptures.

Along with the privileges of tax exemption, the Church also surrenders certain liberties to keep that exemption. I would venture to say that a majority of consistent churchgoers value the bill of rights; which include the right to free speech, practice religion, & others. Yet, week-in and week-out we voluntarily nullify our rights in order to enjoy the monetary benefits of tax exemption. We’d rather sacrifice our ability to speak our mind on moral, social, & political issues for the sake of extra cash. The almighty dollar has replaced the almighty God.

Many preach from the pulpit about a society that is in spiritual decline, but it’s no wonder why it is in decline. The decline is not the world’s fault. It’s not Satan’s fault. It’s not the president’s fault. It’s our (the Church’s) fault. The almighty dollar runs and governs our churches. I understand that money is necessary for ministry. I’m not trying to cast a hex on it. Scripture clearly states that the ‘love of money’ is the root of all kinds of evil. If our desire for a little extra cash requires a small sacrifice from the message each week, then I don’t know if there’s a better example that clearly demonstrates our problem with the love of money.

Who am I kidding though? It may be that money already has too much of a tight grip in this society to force God’s people to wake up. I realize that I am preaching to myself on this topic, yet here I am discussing it because I realize how important of a topic it is.

Eventually, this society will decline enough to force churches to either stand with scripture or keep their non-profit status. Eventually, pastors are going to be jailed, churches will be closed, and deacons will be arrested; because there had been preaching against homosexuality, abortion, abstinence, drugs, or family roles. In 30+ years from now, I can’t predict what spiritual opinion will be deemed illegal, but the punishment for our social beliefs are going to happen in a US church one day.

As i looked into the topic of 501c3 status for churches, I found some contradicting information out there about the ‘what are’ and ‘what are not’ the religious rights of churches. As I stated in my disclaimer – I am not an expert on this topic, but I am fairly certain that a pastor cannot endorse any political candidate. A pastor may not be prosecuted for preaching against gay marriage or abortion today, but to endorse a candidate from the pulpit that aligns with their religious beliefs is against the 501c3 regulations.

You may agree or disagree with the overall consensus of the ‘controversial’ social issues of today; just realize that understanding the dangers of  501c3’s is what’s at stake here. Also, what’s important is recognizing how we’ve fallen in love with money in the Church.

What is your opinion of the 501c3 status for churches? Do you think it hurts or helps, in what way?

Filed Under: Church Financial Operations Tagged With: 501c3, Kim Davis, Love Of Money, Marriage, Taxes

Is Tithing to the Government Required?

01/04/11 by Jared Brian 10 Comments

Believe it or not, this is a very serious question that has some scriptural support. Forget about the debate over tithing within the Church. Does the bible require us to give 10% of our increase to the government? Believe it or not, the scripture we use to defend tithing within our Church can be used to require tithing to your government. This may sound far-fetched, but you may believe me once you read below.

Abraham and King Melchizedek

Let’s begin with the very first mention of tithing in the bible in Genesis 14

“Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he [Melchizedek] blessed him and said: “Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth; And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.” And he [Abraham] gave him a tithe of all [spoils of war].”

Melchizedek was just as much a king as he was a priest. He was not more priest than he was king, nor was he more king than he was priest. The text in Hebrews 7:2 states that Melchizedek’s literal name means ‘King of Righteousness’. When we study the account of Abraham tithing to Melchizedek, we find that Abraham gave him a tithe of the spoils of war, and did not give him a tithe from his own possessions. This brings serious questions to Abraham’s motives. It would seem that Abraham’s motives for tithing were more political, than they were for personal, or religious reasons.

As a personal and intimate gesture, ‘I’ would have given a tenth of my own wealth, since this would be a sign of sincere thanks. But as a political gesture, I would have given in a way that resembled paying a tax.

Many bible scholars consider the tithe as the minimum obligation and emphasize that offerings above and beyond the tithe show the true intent of our heart. Since Abraham did not give above a tithe (not to mention from his own wealth) he practiced the bare minimum at best.  Once again, do you think Abraham’s motives were personal or political?

Was Abraham giving a tithe to God or was he giving a tax imposed upon the land he was traveling through? If you read “The Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago”, it provides 11 different accounts of a 10% tax being imposed in the region that Abraham met Melchizedek.

If you continue further research on this subject, you will read in a published book titled, “The Religion of Patriarchs”, Augustine Pagolu states in his PhD. dissertation, “the practice of offering the deity a portion of the booty was an established norm in the ancient Near East”. He also states this, “the tenth of the Old Assyrian period, which appears more like a civil tax, and the tenth of the old Babylonian period, which was required by both the temple and the palace”

I do not like getting into the boring research, and quoting PhD’s, and reading a bunch of words that i have to look up in Webster’s; but this was kind of necessary to show you how antiquated the civil tithe tax is. There is much more proof of an ancient tithe tax in Abraham’s region, but to prohibit boring you to death, i will not get into it.

The fact is that the tithe was required by governments prior to Abraham’s existence. We have to accept the fact that Abraham’s example is possibly not in response to worship, but to his civil duty to pay his tax. Historical records definitely expose the civil tax, and the bible does not deny it.

Biblical Numerology: 10

There may be some of us who show interest in biblical numerology. For instance, we see significance in the numbers – ‘3’, ‘7’, ‘666’ and the list goes on. The number ’10’ also has a symbolic reference in the bible and many times it is in reference to the law and government. Here are the examples.

  • In the Old Testament, a leader was put over ten people and a new leader above ten leaders.(Exodus 18:21-25; Deuteronomy 1:15).
  • The ten people from all nations in Zachariah 8:23 represent people who want to be ruled by the king of Israel.
  • 10 horns represent 10 kings (Daniel 7:24; Revelation 12:3, 13:1, 17:3-16).
  • 10 toes represent ten kingdoms in Danial 2:41
  • The 10 commandments

As we can see the number ten has a symbolic role with the function of civil government. Keep in mind that there are other meanings behind the number 10 just like any other number.

Israel’s Monarchical Tithe

While Israel was strictly under a theocracy there was no king to tithe to, but in 1 Samuel 8:15-17 we read about the natural effect of Israel eventually adopting a monarchy.

“He will take a tenth of your grain and your vintage, and give it to his officers and servants. And he will take your male servants, your female servants, your finest young men, and your donkeys, and put them to his work. He will take a tenth of your sheep. And you will be his servants.”

Prior to Israel adopting a king, the theocracy was their form of government. This means that the levites and priests operated in judicial positions. All the priests did not occupy the temple year round. They had 2 week shifts. So, during their ‘off-duty’ time, the levites also had civil duties in the cities while the religious tithe supported their civil duties.

So even prior to the adoption of a monarchy, Israel’s original tithe still went towards civil duties of the government. After the adoption of a monarchy, an additional 10% was given completely to their new form of government. Note that when the monarchy began, the Levitical, civil duties did not terminate. So there were tithes given to both forms of government – the theocracy and monarchy. In other words much of their 20% was going towards some form of government.

Jesus Command

Luke 20:21-25 Then they asked Him, saying, “Is it lawful for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?” But He perceived their craftiness, and said to them, “Why do you test Me? “Show Me a denarius. Whose image and inscription does it have?” They answered and said, “Caesar’s.” And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Who can explain this paradox? I think there’s two conclusions i can see from this – God owns it all, and pay your taxes.

Taxes in the New Testament

Romans 13:6-7 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.

I have to admit that this is the first time i’ve noticed the bible calling your government – ‘God’s ministers’.  I thought this title only belonged to priests pastors? What do you think is a worthy payment for God’s ministers? Is it 1%, 5%, or 10%? Maybe you are part of the growing population who don’t pay taxes at all. Maybe that’s why your finances are under a curse. Maybe you should start sowing seeds into uncle Sam instead of uncle Benny, uncle Kenny, uncle Creflo, and aunt Paula.

What about 1 Timothy 5:17-18? Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine. For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.” Is not the labor of your government worthy of your honor, and of your tithe? Speaking of double honor . . . Is there anywhere in the bible where it says to give less than a tithe towards the government? If Abraham and Israel did it, Jesus confirmed it, and the New Testament admits it, then what do you think we should do about it?

Conclusion

Ok. So, here’s the truth. I don’t believe tithing to your government is required, but i wanted to show you how i can use the same verses and the same logic to defend tithing to the government as most people use to defend the 10% tax on the Church. I’m sorry if you were confused about where i was going with this blog, and whether i truly believed tithing to the government was required.

If Abraham’s example of tithing to King Melchizedek doesn’t convince me to tithe to my government, then why should it convince me to tithe to the Church? If biblical numerology doesn’t seem extraordinary enough to challenge you to pay a 10% tax, then why should the tithe challenge in Malachi 3:10 be extraordinary? If Israel’s tithe to their government doesn’t convince you to tithe to ours, then why should their example to tithe to the Levites convince you to tithe to your pastor? If Jesus command to give unto Caesar doesn’t convince you to give back your tax return, then why should Matthew 23:23 convince us to tithe to the Church? If God’s ministers deserve our financial support then shouldn’t everyone be required to give a 10% minimum to their government? . . . I’m just asking.

The only difference between tithing and taxes is that God only requires you to pay one of them and it’s not tithing.

Filed Under: Tithing & Giving Tagged With: government, Taxes

Charity in the United States: Who Cares?

01/25/10 by Jared Brian Leave a Comment

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Mint.com put out a nice infographic that demonstrates giving in the United States. Some notable things to point out:

  • Americans give $300 billion to charities a year.
  • public charities collect more than the federal government does in income taxes
  • those who earn less than $20,000 give twice as much as those who earn $100,000
  • religious people give more to secular causes than secular people do
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Filed Under: News Tagged With: giving statistics, infographic, mint.com, Taxes

The Tithe Before or After Taxes

08/20/09 by Jared Brian 33 Comments

I just received a question in an email, “Should I tithe before or after taxes?” It’s a good question. Even though there are many other difficult questions in regards to tithing, many people have been confused for some time about whether they should tithe on the gross or net. Everything seemed pretty cut and dry with Israel in the Bible, but it doesn’t seem that way with us since so much has changed with the New Testament Church.

Did Israel Tithe Before or After Taxes?

The tithe for Israel was actually part of their tax system. The tithe paid for many of the civil duties in their government. When Israel gathered their harvest, Leviticus 27 says that they set the tenth one aside. We cannot simply equate the tithe for the Church to what Israel was doing with the tithe.

The taxes that we pay today are much like the taxes that Israel paid through tithing. Our tax somewhat functions as a tithe did for ancient Israel. According to Nerd Wallet As of 2023, the lowest tax bracket for single-filers is 10%. Our taxes pay for things such as welfare and civil functions much like the tithing tax did for Israel. Their tithe paid for judges, welfare, and administrative officials in the government.

The answer is that Israel didn’t tithe before or after taxes. The tithe was their tax.

Do You Tithe Before or After Taxes?

Since we can’t take Israel’s example and apply it to our situation today, what can we take from scripture to answer the question of whether we should tithe before or after taxes? The answer is not as straightforward as some would like. Because the Bible does not clarify the technical aspects of tithing for our culture. Tithing before or after taxes is just one of a long list of other questions about finances and giving such as:

  • Do you tithe on retirement earnings?
  • Do you tithe on gifts?
  • Do you tithe on my investment returns?
  • Do you tithe on the benefits of my health insurance?
  • Do you tithe on car insurance claims?
  • Do you tithe on social security?
  • Is tithing before or after taxes?
  • Can I count Christian education toward tithing?
  • Can I tithe to a charity?
  • Can I tithe to friends and family?

OK…So you get the point. Tithing is a complicated matter in the bible that doesn’t give us straight answers for today. Since tithing in the bible does not provide us with clear direction about whether we should tithe before or after taxes, the obvious answer is that our tithe is neither before nor after taxes. This is the wrong question to ask, but keep reading to understand why.

Should We Tithe on our Tax Returns?

The Bible is not explicit about what to do in this situation. The tithe was Israel’s tax. It’s almost asking if Israel should tithe on their tithe return. If we already paid what was due, why would we need to pay more?

Most people ask this question because some will only tithe on their gross or net income. Meaning that some of us will give 10% off the top of our paychecks before uncle same takes his share and some of us give 10% after uncle sam. So, when tax returns come around, we’re wondering if we need to pay back what we did not tithe on originally.

If you want to read more about this, you can read the article Should I Tithe on my Tax Return. I’ll leave you with the statement that Jesus is quoted as saying in Mark 12:17, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”

Do We Tithe at all?

The question you should be asking yourself right now is if tithing is the answer at all. Through all of this, I am reminded of the verse In Romans 2:29 – “circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter.”

Those who have a heart toward God will seek obedience. So I understand why they question in regards to the tithing command. But Godly Stewardship is not in the letter, it is of the heart and in the Spirit. Some may see fit to include a 10% requirement within the spirit of the law, but when confronted about whether 10% is a reflection of their heart, they answer, “No”. If a 10% commitment is not a reflection of their heart then how can it be within the spirit of the law?

The point is that all these questions about tithing show how 10% giving is a part of the letter and not of the spirit. The regulations about what you can give, who you can give to, how much you can give, when and where; are all part of the letter that kills. if you don’t think it kills, just look at how people stumble over one tithing question. Let alone, a hundred more that the bible doesn’t even give you answers for; because the instructions for tithing were given under the Old Covenant.

With Spirit-led giving in the New Testament, the command to tithe is overwritten and fulfilled. If the law was fulfilled, that means its purpose is used up. You cannot continue to use and add more water to a bucket of water when it has fulfilled its purpose. It is full and finished with its job. It is not abolished. It is just fulfilled. Now, you need a different bucket that allows you to fill up with more water. Thank God for Spirit-led giving in its place.

Filed Under: Tithing & Giving Tagged With: Taxes

Should Churches Pay Taxes or be Exempt?

07/14/09 by Jared Brian 55 Comments

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I am not aware of tax regulations in any country other than the United States. Here in the U.S., churches do not pay taxes because they are exempt. Their 501(c)(3) status prohibits them from paying some federal income taxes, property taxes, and/or sales taxes. Before we answer whether they should pay taxes or be exempt, let’s look at a quick history of tax exemptions.

Ancient History of Church Tax Exemption

The first example I have found of religious tax exemptions is found in Genesis 47:26 when the priest’s land was exempt from paying the Pharaoh’s tax.

And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt to this day, that Pharaoh should have one-fifth, except for the land of the priests only, which did not become Pharaoh’s

This passage is by no means a biblical mandate to require tax exemption upon any religious institution. This is just an example of tax exemption in world history.

There are many more examples of tax exemption in our ancient history, but let’s move forward into the medieval ages

In medieval times the Roman Catholic Church and the English throne were in marriage with one another,  so therefore, the Catholic Church was exempt from paying taxes. The Church and the government were essentially one organization, so if the Government were to tax the Church, they would be taxing themselves.

The tax exemption that was imposed upon the Catholic Church would lay the foundation and traditions that we find in our modern laws today.

Modern History of Church Tax Exemption

The marriage of the throne and the Church is one of the main reasons our forefathers declared in our constitution, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”. They wanted the Church to operate apart from the state (although the phrase “separation of Church & State” is not found in the Constitution)

Although the Church and the State no longer operate as one entity, these tax exempt laws seem to have been ‘grandfathered’ into our common laws.

David M Andersen in Brigham Young University Law Review writes, “In 1894, Congress passed the first income tax on corporations but exempted from the tax those “corporations, companies, or associations organized and conducted solely for charitable, religious or educational purposes.”

Now we see our government providing a unique status to Churches, but what is their reason for allowing this privilege? Were they afraid God was going to strike them with lightning if they didn’t? The reason for providing tax exempt status may not seem obvious.

Erik Stanley from LaTimes.com says, “In general, governments believed that churches along with other types of community groups enhanced and supplemented government services such as feeding the hungry, housing those in need of shelter and in general using private funds for public good. (Although this is a debate for another time, I note that more and more religious groups are now asking for a government bailout through the “faith-based initiative” and to keep their tax exemptions.)”

The reason why the Church has been privileged with its tax-exempt status is because the government expected us to supplement the need for humanitarian services. Basically, our responsibility for the welfare of the people relieved this burden off of the backs of the government.

Questioning the Church’s Eligibility to be Tax Exempt

I realize that there is no official list of social qualifications that we need to maintain in order to keep our tax exempt status, but one cannot wonder why our eligibility remains as the government takes on more of our social responsibilities? Is there any form of social criteria that we have to meet in order to keep our tax exempt status other than preaching out of some religious book once a week?

If the Church does not provide for the poor, the indigent, the homeless, or the sick do you think Korea, Japan, U.K., or Canada would want to apply for that responsibility? Of course, people run to their own government for help. Listen, somebody has to help these people. I don’t care if you are a democrat, republican, or libertarian, Marxist, or environmentalist, these people need help.

We can debate about whether their situation is their own fault. We can say that they chose their own path. I am not disagreeing with you, but that isn’t an excuse for us to overlook their desperation. Their choices are never, ever an excuse for our negligence for their basic needs.

It sickens me that as the government relishes the opportunity to take on more social responsibilities while the Church gladly passes on the torch. Now that we are free from taking care of people’s needs, we can spend more money on ourselves, on our church buildings, on our programs, on our stage design, and on our sound equipment. We relish the opportunity to beautify our image while the government relishes the more Godly response. While the government is taking on the responsibility of  being a savior, and we spit in our the real Savior’s face who once said, “For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.” and also “Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”

Conclusion

I’m going to say it right away – Take away the tax-exempt status of the Church!

As the government takes on more and more social responsibilities, i am sick of seeing my taxes go up and up. If churches started paying property taxes, I wouldn’t doubt if my taxes would actually decrease. Believe me, i wish i could say the opposite, the problem is that the Church is extremely ill. We have been sick for a long time. Giving statistics state that the Church spends 85% of the funds it receives on internal operations and only 3% of our money goes towards aiding and ministering towards the unsaved.

Do I blame the poor for crying to the government? No Way! When they come crying to the Church, they get turned away, so where else should they go? Should they get a job? Why don’t you go trying to get a minimum wage job as a single parent. Let’s see how well you survive providing for your family while doing that?

I am a fiscal conservative, but I believe the Church should handle spiritual as well as social responsibilities. But the problem is that we aren’t, so I’m done fighting against social health care, and welfare. Let it happen. Republicans fight and fight about socialism this and socialism that, but we don’t do a stinkin thing about it! Until the Church gets its act together and takes care of our responsibility there’s nothing else for me to say. Right now, I am just furious! We have no right to be tax exempt!

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